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Hibernian Pilgrim's avatar

Thanks for this! As someone who's followed this case from Day 1, I've become increasingly confused in recent weeks as to the timeline and the veracity of the evidence against Luigi. I read the official complaint against him and it looked pretty damning, but I don't have the education or background to judge these kinds of things accurately. I'm very interested in seeing what kind of defense Tom Dickey and Karen Agnofilio are going mount in the coming months.

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Ashley Shelby's avatar

I know, I can't wait. Agnifilo indicated that the state and federal timelines are in conflict in some parts. We'll have lots to parse out once the evidentiary hearing takes place. And once the trial starts and we get the prosecution's proposed timeline of where Mangione was during February-late November, we can fill in this timeline. Obviously, they'll have access to his passport swipes.

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J Mac's avatar

Hi. I think you’ve captured a good deal. I don’t have any more sources for you. But there’s a lack of critical thinking on many of the subs. The police info is inconsistent: CCTV timestamps don’t match, photos don’t match, the backpack was reported dropped at 4 different locations, each one half a mile apart. That perp walk! Was total overkill.

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J Mac's avatar

PS Also, the 6 min time the police quote to ride an e-bike from W103-W56th St is too short. I’m a life long NY’er and live 2 blocks from the park. If u have any other questions

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Ashley Shelby's avatar

Thank you! When I start piecing together a timeline for the December events, I'll have to go through media reports and the state and federal complaints. I may pull out all of my hair! I will definitely reach out for New York-centric questions. I lived in New York for about a decade, but not near the Park or midtown.

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J Mac's avatar

Of course happy to help if I can.

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Tony Christini's avatar

I'm currently serializing an imaginative look at a potential progressive "turning" in a novel of revolt, Most Revolutionary. Here's Sabia the wound-up main character going off to a high government official in the most recent chapter about a Luigi Mangione figure (Alecta, mentioned early and late in the quote, is an AOC figure):

“You know, it’s funny how everyone with any status at all in society bends over backwards to say that Luigione killing that health insurance executive who is responsible for enforcing policy that maims and kills the very people he draws his multimillion dollar salary from — everyone with status says that such killing is unacceptable and wrong. Then the reality check of the people’s poll comes out where nearly half of young people tell their truth and say the killing is ‘acceptable’ — because what other hope is there? Even Alecta can only do so much, so far. The corporate state is too vicious and too strong and too deranged and debased. So after the killing, health insurance executives start shifting their policies at least slightly in favor of the People so as to try not to antagonize then any further. For now. And that’s a good effect. And the pillaging class, the big owners, the big execs, instantly improve their personal security measures because they know what type of brutal and outraged world they create, maintain, manage, and enforce. Are not the real Sickos those who most directly perpetrate the Sicko system? The real criminals, the biggest killers wear suits and ties, are worth millions and billions, and they kill left and right and day and night, and are protected by their fucking laws, bought and sold, and there are no official manhunts for their psychopathic heads and sociopath ways. Hell, no, the entire police state throws itself against Mario Luigione who struck a blow for the People, who improved the People’s bargaining power, who put the real killers on notice — in a chaotic way that could backfire, sure, but then again might not, might continue to do its gruesome work for the People. As it has. Mario Luigione brings people the only hope for health care change in this country, aside from Alecta O’Roura Chavez and social warriors like her, including the ransomers of President Silver — liberatory revolutionaries and socialists near and far — sprinkled everywhere across the continent and planet. CEO Brad Timpson fought Alecta’s Presidential Order for free universal health care tooth and nail and now he’s dead and the other health insurance executives are still fighting, but a little less powerfully due to the Luigione effect. The Executioners’ odds of continued wins are a little rougher now, their Executioners’ songs a little bleaker, thanks to the attack against one of the worst white collar criminals who dared to walk among us, and who dared to cross paths with Mario Luigione. People say they can’t condone it. That’s because they want to protect their status and not be smeared by the asinine, the Evil, or the powerful, or they are so brainwashed and callous to people’s crying human needs and rights that they themselves are barely recognizable as human anymore. I mean, I get it. Sympathizers, some of them, at some times, in some places, need to protect themselves too. But corporate America is like a cartoon villain by now, and only the most deeply brainwashed don’t see it, can’t see it, or won’t.” -Sabia Perez, in Most Revolutionary

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